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BidenFlation $17,000 to Ship Container to California from Asia, Up from $3,800 in 2020
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Lee Weather
2021-10-21 16:57:27 UTC
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Keep up the good work Joe Biden. You're doing a fine job of
destroying the world.

"Shipping Costs Surge: $17,000 to Ship Container to California from
Asia, Up from $3,800 in 2020 "

"Shipping costs are surging around the globe, causing the price of
sending a container from Asia to the West Coast to increase many
times over.

When Donald Trump was president in 2020, the price to ship a
container from Asia to California was $3,800. That price spiked to
$17,000 in October of 2021, according to supply chain technology
company Freightos.

Freightos also revealed that shipping to the east coast is more
expensive than the west coast, with rates reaching $20,000.

The increase in shipping cost is primarily due to the supply chain
crunch, which is jamming seaports, trucking companies, and
warehouses.

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"More than 100 ships were reported this week to be anchored off the
coast of California while waiting their turn to dock and unload full
containers. But the seaports are stocked so high that ports are
forcing vessels to wait up to two weeks before unloading.

The delay in unloading the containers at the ports delays the ships’
return voyage to Asia to collect more containers for the next
shipment, which only backlogs ports in Asia and further delays the
flow of goods to the United States.

The large number of containers piled at American docs is primarily
due to the low supply of truck drivers. President and CEO of the
American Trucking Association told CNN on Tuesday the supply chain
crisis is short 80,000 drivers, a “record high.”

The association also conveyed the demand for truck drivers in October
is 30 percent more than it was before the pandemic began.

Even if there were enough truck drivers to move the containers from
the seaports, available warehouses are becoming more expensive and
rare, further driving up the cost for consumers to receive goods.

President Joe Biden has responded to the supply chain crisis by
demanding a few ports remain operational for 24 hours a day. Yet many
endpoint destinations are closed during the night, so truckers are
not able to deliver the containers until the morning."

"Biden’s plan may have unintended consequences, however, as truckers
are dropping containers in residential neighborhoods near the
seaports. “UCTI Trucking Company, located in Wilmington, California,
only has the capacity of holding 65 containers, the report said,”
Breitbart News reported. “As a result of limited space, the trucking
company has been lining the streets of the nearby neighborhood in
front of the homes of nearby residents.”

While trucking companies are dropping freight in the wrong locations,
absent from stores and customers, Transportation Secretary Pete
Buttigieg has also been absent from his post. Buttigieg has taken
paternity leave since mid-August with his husband and two children.
Buttigieg’s absence has been defended by the White House while they
weigh whether to deploy the National Guard to confront the crisis.
-hh
2021-10-21 17:44:33 UTC
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Post by Lee Weather
Keep up the good work Joe Biden. You're doing a fine job of
destroying the world.
"Shipping Costs Surge: $17,000 to Ship Container to California from
Asia, Up from $3,800 in 2020 "
Merely the classical laws of Supply & Demand ... ain't "Unfettered Capitalism" great?

Or are you whining that you don't like Capitalists taking advantage of you when
prices go up, so you're begging for more government intervention of commerce?

Choose your poison...


-hh
chrisv
2021-10-21 19:40:41 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by Lee Weather
"Shipping Costs Surge: $17,000 to Ship Container to California from
Asia, Up from $3,800 in 2020 "
Merely the classical laws of Supply & Demand ... ain't "Unfettered Capitalism" great?
Or are you whining that you don't like Capitalists taking advantage of you when
prices go up, so you're begging for more government intervention of commerce?
Choose your poison...
There's nothing wrong with being for free markets, but accepting of
government intervention in extraordinary situations, like this.
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-hh
2021-10-21 19:54:37 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by -hh
Post by Lee Weather
"Shipping Costs Surge: $17,000 to Ship Container to California from
Asia, Up from $3,800 in 2020 "
Merely the classical laws of Supply & Demand ... ain't "Unfettered Capitalism" great?
Or are you whining that you don't like Capitalists taking advantage of you when
prices go up, so you're begging for more government intervention of commerce?
Choose your poison...
There's nothing wrong with being for free markets, but accepting of
government intervention in extraordinary situations, like this.
Sure, the "goldilocks" is the common sense middle road approach, but
these folks haven't been moderates: they've screamed opposition at
anything which even smells possibly governmental.

-hh
pothead
2021-10-21 20:54:00 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by -hh
Post by Lee Weather
"Shipping Costs Surge: $17,000 to Ship Container to California from
Asia, Up from $3,800 in 2020 "
Merely the classical laws of Supply & Demand ... ain't "Unfettered Capitalism" great?
Or are you whining that you don't like Capitalists taking advantage of you when
prices go up, so you're begging for more government intervention of commerce?
Choose your poison...
There's nothing wrong with being for free markets, but accepting of
government intervention in extraordinary situations, like this.
Exactly.
I'm a free market person but there are situations where the
government needs to become involved. Clear monopolies is a basic one.

The problem with the government is that there is little they do
correctly without turning things into FUBAR.
And in general, government regulation tends to stifle development,
jobs and so forth.
This is one problem I have with the Democrats. They want to regulate
everything.
Take a look at California for example. You can't modify your car, put
a aftermarket tune into the computer etc. And even before COVID, look
at how fucked up that state has become.
And a lot of it is due to government over regulation which is a basic
tenant of the Democrats.

So government intervention is sometimes needed but mostly it just
fucks things up.

And BTW classic Republicans (not Trumpers) aren't much better and in
fact in some cases they are worse because they pretend to be less
government but don't follow through on it. At least the Democrats let
you know when you are about to be fucked :)

That's one reason I liked Trump.
He saw waste and things not being fair to the USA, ie:NATO, WHO,
Paris Climate accord, China trade, etc and he did something about it.

What did Biden do?

He jumped right back into all the above once again making the USA a
fresh pussy to be fucked by all comers.
That's one reason why I have zero respect for Joe Biden.
And I suspect he is owned by China, Russia, Ukraine and other states
due to his son Hunter Biden peddling the Biden name for huge sums of
money.

Is everything that is tanking the fault of Joe Biden?
Of course not.
However, what is he doing about it?
Mostly hiding and dodging questions from the increasingly frustrated
press.
And that too will ultimately backfire on Biden.
It's just a matter of time.
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rbowman
2021-10-22 01:54:11 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by -hh
Post by Lee Weather
"Shipping Costs Surge: $17,000 to Ship Container to California from
Asia, Up from $3,800 in 2020 "
Merely the classical laws of Supply & Demand ... ain't "Unfettered Capitalism" great?
Or are you whining that you don't like Capitalists taking advantage of you when
prices go up, so you're begging for more government intervention of commerce?
Choose your poison...
There's nothing wrong with being for free markets, but accepting of
government intervention in extraordinary situations, like this.
When the extraordinary situation was caused by government intervention
more government intervention is going to fix it? California did its best
to put owner operators out of business.

The game has changed a little all you used to need was a tractor. The
container companies like MAERSK owned the chassis. You picked the
chassis up at the port, they loaded a container on it, and you were
gone. Now you can buy your own for a few thousand, less than a flatbed
or dry van and you're in business. You don't even have to wait in line
to get a chassis.

Or you used to be in business. Now in California you need a 2010 or
later engine and they muddied the waters on whether an OO is a
contractor or an employee of the terminal company.
J***@.
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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DemoRats happily kill anyone who doesn't embrace their apocalypse cult.

The less people work ( especially firemen, teachers & police )
the better... no gig workers nor small businesses, thank you very much.

Add hungry Haitians to the mix, and you've got the ideal society,
they imagine.
chrisv
2021-10-22 12:42:27 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by chrisv
There's nothing wrong with being for free markets, but accepting of
government intervention in extraordinary situations, like this.
When the extraordinary situation was caused by government intervention
more government intervention is going to fix it? California did its best
to put owner operators out of business.
I was speaking in general terms. I was not arguing that government
intervention would be appropriate, or effective, in the specific case
of the container bottleneck.
Post by rbowman
(California stuff, snipped)
I'm not going to pretend that I know everything about everything.
It's a complex situation, and I don't have the answers.
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-hh
2021-10-23 02:43:20 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by chrisv
There's nothing wrong with being for free markets, but accepting of
government intervention in extraordinary situations, like this.
When the extraordinary situation was caused by government intervention
more government intervention is going to fix it? California did its best
to put owner operators out of business.
I was speaking in general terms. I was not arguing that government
intervention would be appropriate, or effective, in the specific case
of the container bottleneck.
Post by rbowman
(California stuff, snipped)
I'm not going to pretend that I know everything about everything.
It's a complex situation, and I don't have the answers.
I read a good summary article on it this AM; apparently the bottleneck isn't
the docks per se, but a backlog of too many empty containers that they
can't readily clear and are blocking everything else from being moved.

Good news is that this report had specific suggestions for solutions, and
interested parties got the phones ringing at the Mayor of Long Beach & CA
Governor's offices .. reportedly, around 6 hours ago, they've provided a
temporary zoning relief to stack empty containers higher (from 2 high to 6 high),
which should allow them to get the empties out of the way and get material
flowing again...


-hh

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