Discussion:
Which one would you buy?
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Nobody
2014-08-03 12:50:59 UTC
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You can buy this Lenovo Notebook:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8992868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad

Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit

$549.99 with free shipping


or for $50 more you can buy this Mac Mini:

http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html

with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable

On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
Curtis Bass
2014-08-03 13:59:45 UTC
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Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8992868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
Apple makes overpriced junk that appeals to insecure people with deep
pockets.
Snit
2014-08-03 15:39:42 UTC
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Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons looking at
Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all the ones shown in
CSMA... but those are outdated by now.

<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
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Nobody
2014-08-03 15:43:41 UTC
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Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
DFS
2014-08-03 16:10:50 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?

What's your problem?
Snit
2014-08-03 16:13:37 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
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Nobody
2014-08-03 16:28:54 UTC
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Post by DFS
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Post by Snit
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=
899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
Which one gives the reason you're evading the comparison in this thread?
Snit
2014-08-03 16:52:25 UTC
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On 8/3/14, 9:28 AM, in article brtDv.174995$***@fx01.iad, "Nobody"
<***@invalid.com> wrote:

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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by DFS
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
Which one gives the reason you're evading the comparison in this thread?
I am not evading it. I have spoken about how it is an irrelevant comparison
where you look at two very different types of machines. I have encouraged
you to look for non-COLA inspired comparisons, and even shown you older ones
I compiled when people made similar claims in CSMA
(<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>). At least at the time, while
people were making similar claims, the evidence did not back them. I looked
very briefly for Mac mini comparisons... did not find any. I would not be
surprised if it is higher priced than similar machines... it is getting long
in the tooth if nothing else. I expect an update soon. This is supported
here: <http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac_Mini>. Add to that, I also
noted that if your needs are met with the PC notebook then it seems like the
better deal for you. Great. I do not think anyone is trying to convince you
otherwise so I am not even sure what point you think you are making.

But, I predict, you will ignore all of that and just troll. :)
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Nobody
2014-08-03 16:57:54 UTC
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Post by Snit
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by DFS
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
Which one gives the reason you're evading the comparison in this thread?
I am not evading it.
Sure you are. That's why you snipped it out and posted nothing but
bullshit in its place.

Here it is restored:

You can buy this Lenovo Notebook:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8992868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad

Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit

$549.99 with free shipping


or for $50 more you can buy this Mac Mini:

http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html

with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable

On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
Snit
2014-08-03 18:02:30 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
...
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by DFS
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
Which one gives the reason you're evading the comparison in this thread?
I am not evading it.
Sure you are. That's why you snipped it out and posted nothing but
bullshit in its place.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
Two dissimilar machines have dissimilar prices. Not in contention.

But so what?
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Nobody
2014-08-03 18:40:02 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by DFS
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
Which one gives the reason you're evading the comparison in this thread?
I am not evading it.
Sure you are. That's why you snipped it out and posted nothing but
bullshit in its place.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
Two dissimilar machines have dissimilar prices. Not in contention.
Yes it is. Why does the Mac Mini give so much less than a notebook PC
even though it costs more? In the PC market you get more in a desktop
computer than in a laptop computer. In the Apple market, not only does
a Mac desktop give you less than a PC laptop, it costs more too!
Post by Snit
But so what?
Since you have nothing intelligent to contribute, why don't you STFU?
Snit
2014-08-03 19:40:52 UTC
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On 8/3/14, 11:40 AM, in article 9mvDv.526886$***@fx18.iad, "Nobody"
<***@invalid.com> wrote:

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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Two dissimilar machines have dissimilar prices. Not in contention.
Yes it is.
By whom?

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Curtis Bass
2014-08-03 22:37:32 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
...
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by DFS
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
Which one gives the reason you're evading the comparison in this thread?
I am not evading it.
Sure you are. That's why you snipped it out and posted nothing but
bullshit in its place.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?
EdpNo=899
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz 8GB Memory 1TB HDD DVDRW 15.6" Full HD Touch
1920 X 1080 Display Notebook AMD Radeon R4 graphics Dolby Advanced
Audio v2 audio enhancement HDMI 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 1 - USB 3.0, 2
- USB 2.0 Integrated Webcam Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1 Windows
8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores with half the RAM with half the hard
disk space no keyboard no monitor no Webcam no optical drive no open
drive bay DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
Two dissimilar machines have dissimilar prices. Not in contention.
Yes it is. Why does the Mac Mini give so much less than a notebook PC
even though it costs more? In the PC market you get more in a desktop
computer than in a laptop computer. In the Apple market, not only does
a Mac desktop give you less than a PC laptop, it costs more too!
Post by Snit
But so what?
Since you have nothing intelligent to contribute, why don't you STFU?
You made the comparison between a laptop and a desktop so you lost from
the get go.
Try harder next time.
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Snit
2014-08-03 22:57:38 UTC
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On 8/3/14, 3:37 PM, in article lrmdjb$vt1$***@dont-email.me, "Curtis Bass"
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Post by Curtis Bass
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Two dissimilar machines have dissimilar prices. Not in contention.
Yes it is. Why does the Mac Mini give so much less than a notebook PC
even though it costs more? In the PC market you get more in a desktop
computer than in a laptop computer. In the Apple market, not only does
a Mac desktop give you less than a PC laptop, it costs more too!
Post by Snit
But so what?
Since you have nothing intelligent to contribute, why don't you STFU?
You made the comparison between a laptop and a desktop so you lost from
the get go.
Try harder next time.
Right... he compared two dissimilar machines and decided the more expensive
one was overpriced. I then did the same with the Mac mini and a Samsung
product and found the Mac mini to be much, much less expensive... something
like $39,000 less expensive. At that price it must be a steal.

Suddenly "Nobody" decided to wave his white flag and run off. :)
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Nobody
2014-08-03 23:26:38 UTC
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Post by Nobody
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by DFS
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
Do you want the alphabetical or chronological list? :)
Which one gives the reason you're evading the comparison in this thread?
I am not evading it.
Sure you are. That's why you snipped it out and posted nothing but
bullshit in its place.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?
EdpNo=899
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz 8GB Memory 1TB HDD DVDRW 15.6" Full HD Touch
1920 X 1080 Display Notebook AMD Radeon R4 graphics Dolby Advanced
Audio v2 audio enhancement HDMI 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 1 - USB 3.0, 2
- USB 2.0 Integrated Webcam Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1 Windows
8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores with half the RAM with half the hard
disk space no keyboard no monitor no Webcam no optical drive no open
drive bay DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
Two dissimilar machines have dissimilar prices. Not in contention.
Yes it is. Why does the Mac Mini give so much less than a notebook PC
even though it costs more? In the PC market you get more in a desktop
computer than in a laptop computer. In the Apple market, not only does
a Mac desktop give you less than a PC laptop, it costs more too!
Post by Snit
But so what?
Since you have nothing intelligent to contribute, why don't you STFU?
You made the comparison between a laptop and a desktop so you lost from
the get go.
People use laptop computers as replacements for desktop computers, Snit.
Post by Nobody
Try harder next time.
You'd like your ass to be kicked even harder?
Snit
2014-08-03 23:36:10 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Curtis Bass
Post by Nobody
Since you have nothing intelligent to contribute, why don't you STFU?
You made the comparison between a laptop and a desktop so you lost from
the get go.
People use laptop computers as replacements for desktop computers, Snit.
And you use trolling as a replacement for thinking, Edwin.

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JEDIDIAH
2014-08-04 15:51:51 UTC
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Post by Curtis Bass
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Two dissimilar machines have dissimilar prices. Not in contention.
Yes it is. Why does the Mac Mini give so much less than a notebook PC
even though it costs more? In the PC market you get more in a desktop
computer than in a laptop computer. In the Apple market, not only does
a Mac desktop give you less than a PC laptop, it costs more too!
Post by Snit
But so what?
Since you have nothing intelligent to contribute, why don't you STFU?
You made the comparison between a laptop and a desktop so you lost from
the get go.
Try harder next time.
Nope. If anything, that gives a handicap to the PC.

The PC in the comparison is subject to an extra unecessary burden and
it STILL manages to beat the Mac. If you start talking about "desktops"
on the PC side then it only makes the Mac look even WORSE.
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RonB
2014-08-04 00:41:39 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Yes it is. Why does the Mac Mini give so much less than a notebook PC
even though it costs more? In the PC market you get more in a desktop
computer than in a laptop computer. In the Apple market, not only does
a Mac desktop give you less than a PC laptop, it costs more too!
Because it DOESN'T HAVE THAT OH-SO-SPECIAL APPLE LOGO! What part of this
can't you understand?
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Snit
2014-08-04 00:56:48 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Yes it is. Why does the Mac Mini give so much less than a notebook PC
even though it costs more? In the PC market you get more in a desktop
computer than in a laptop computer. In the Apple market, not only does
a Mac desktop give you less than a PC laptop, it costs more too!
Because it DOESN'T HAVE THAT OH-SO-SPECIAL APPLE LOGO! What part of this
can't you understand?
Again: more obsession with logos. Just weird.
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RonB
2014-08-04 00:40:17 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Sure you are. That's why you snipped it out and posted nothing but
bullshit in its place.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?
EdpNo=8992868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Post by Nobody
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz 8GB Memory 1TB HDD DVDRW 15.6" Full HD Touch
1920 X 1080 Display Notebook AMD Radeon R4 graphics Dolby Advanced Audio
v2 audio enhancement HDMI 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB
2.0 Integrated Webcam Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1 Windows 8.1
64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores with half the RAM with half the hard disk
space no keyboard no monitor no Webcam no optical drive no open drive
bay DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
Bears repeating. Especially since iCultists constantly yammer on about how
the cost for overpriced Mac hardware is the same as for PC hardware.
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2014-08-04 00:56:34 UTC
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Post by Nobody
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
Bears repeating. Especially since iCultists constantly yammer on about how
the cost for overpriced Mac hardware is the same as for PC hardware.
Who cares what your imaginary friends "yammer" about in your head?
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2014-08-03 16:19:13 UTC
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Post by Nobody
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Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
Your fellow troll -hh tells us everybody is replacing desktops with
notebooks, especially power users. Didn't you get the memo?

Besides that, the notebook I showed you is 0.3" THINNER than the "small
form factor" Mac Mini. LOL
Post by DFS
What's your problem?
I'm not the one with the problem. When I go shopping for a computer, I
don't constrain my comparison according to "form factor." I compare
what I get for the price. For $550 you can't even get a Mac Mini. Add
$50 to what you spend, and you get half of what's in a PC notebook if
you buy a Mac Mini.
Snit
2014-08-03 16:29:08 UTC
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Post by DFS
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
Your fellow troll -hh tells us everybody is replacing desktops with
notebooks, especially power users. Didn't you get the memo?
One: who cares what someone else says. Respond to the comment and stop
moving goal posts.

Two: Even if they are, why would it matter. Stop moving goal posts.

Three: He is right... you compared two dissimilar machines.
Post by Nobody
Besides that, the notebook I showed you is 0.3" THINNER than the "small
form factor" Mac Mini. LOL
Which is not relevant. Why not try to stop moving goal posts?
Post by Nobody
Post by DFS
What's your problem?
I'm not the one with the problem.
You do not see your faulty comparisons, your moving goal posts, your
dodging, and your other irrational behavior as a problem. OK.
Post by Nobody
When I go shopping for a computer, I don't constrain my comparison according
to "form factor." I compare what I get for the price. For $550 you can't
even get a Mac Mini. Add $50 to what you spend, and you get half of what's in
a PC notebook if you buy a Mac Mini.
So for your needs the notebook seems like it would serve you better. OK. Is
someone telling you to get the Mac mini instead?
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2014-08-03 16:47:13 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
Your fellow troll -hh tells us everybody is replacing desktops with
notebooks, especially power users. Didn't you get the memo?
One: who cares what someone else says.
Who would respond to posts if they didn't care?
Post by Snit
Respond to the comment
I did.
Post by Snit
and stop moving goal posts.
I haven't moved them from where I put them when I started this thread.
Post by Snit
Two: Even if they are, why would it matter.
Because a laptop can be used in place of a desktop, but not the other
way around.
Post by Snit
Stop moving goal posts.
Stop lying about what I'm doing.
Post by Snit
Three: He is right... you compared two dissimilar machines.
Yes, a very good value PC against a poor value Mac.
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Besides that, the notebook I showed you is 0.3" THINNER than the "small
form factor" Mac Mini. LOL
Which is not relevant.
It's relevant to "small form factor."
Post by Snit
Why not try to stop moving goal posts?
Why don't you stop lying about what I'm doing?
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by DFS
What's your problem?
I'm not the one with the problem.
You do not see your faulty comparisons, your moving goal posts, your
dodging, and your other irrational behavior as a problem. OK.
You don't see your insistent lying as a problem, but that's not "OK."
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
When I go shopping for a computer, I don't constrain my comparison according
to "form factor." I compare what I get for the price. For $550 you can't
even get a Mac Mini. Add $50 to what you spend, and you get half of what's in
a PC notebook if you buy a Mac Mini.
So for your needs the notebook seems like it would serve you better.
As it would anybody who needs a computer.
Post by Snit
OK. Is someone telling you to get the Mac mini instead?
Is that the best evasion you could come up with?
Snit
2014-08-03 16:55:57 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by DFS
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
Your fellow troll -hh tells us everybody is replacing desktops with
notebooks, especially power users. Didn't you get the memo?
One: who cares what someone else says.
Who would respond to posts if they didn't care?
OK, so you care. Why should anyone else... especially in this off-topic
context?
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Respond to the comment
I did.
OK: now try to respond without moving goal posts. Specifically, explain why
you are looking at two very different form factors to make price
comparisons.

But you will not.

...
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
When I go shopping for a computer, I don't constrain my comparison according
to "form factor." I compare what I get for the price. For $550 you can't
even get a Mac Mini. Add $50 to what you spend, and you get half of what's in
a PC notebook if you buy a Mac Mini.
So for your needs the notebook seems like it would serve you better.
As it would anybody who needs a computer.
An unsupported claim.
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
OK. Is someone telling you to get the Mac mini instead?
Is that the best evasion you could come up with?
Your question is an evasion in itself. Really: is someone telling you that
if the notebook serves you as well as the Mac mini would you should still
get the Mac mini? Anyone at all? If not then what is your point? That two
dissimilar machines cost different amounts? Um, OK. Nobody is suggesting
otherwise.
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2014-08-03 17:07:44 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
Your fellow troll -hh tells us everybody is replacing desktops with
notebooks, especially power users. Didn't you get the memo?
One: who cares what someone else says.
Who would respond to posts if they didn't care?
OK, so you care. Why should anyone else...
My reply covers that.
Post by Snit
especially in this off-topic
context?
How is answering what you wrote "off-topic context?"
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Respond to the comment
I did.
OK: now try to respond without moving goal posts.
OK: now try to respond without lying. I never moved the goalposts.
Post by Snit
Specifically, explain why
you are looking at two very different form factors to make price
comparisons.
I already answered that, and you responded to my answer.
Post by Snit
But you will not.
Will not repeat myself? Why don't you read what was already given?
Post by Snit
...
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
When I go shopping for a computer, I don't constrain my comparison according
to "form factor." I compare what I get for the price. For $550 you can't
even get a Mac Mini. Add $50 to what you spend, and you get half of what's
in a PC notebook if you buy a Mac Mini.
Like right here?
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
So for your needs the notebook seems like it would serve you better.
As it would anybody who needs a computer.
An unsupported claim.
It's supported by the specifications of the machines.
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
OK. Is someone telling you to get the Mac mini instead?
Is that the best evasion you could come up with?
Your question is an evasion in itself. Really: is someone telling you that
if the notebook serves you as well as the Mac mini would you should still
get the Mac mini? Anyone at all? If not then what is your point? That two
dissimilar machines cost different amounts? Um, OK. Nobody is suggesting
otherwise.
So your contention is that the Mac Mini costs more for half the RAM,
half the HD, and no optical drive, even though more is included in a PC
notebook that's THINNER than a Mac Mini?
Snit
2014-08-03 17:59:55 UTC
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On 8/3/14, 10:07 AM, in article D%tDv.109900$***@fx03.iad, "Nobody"
<***@invalid.com> wrote:

...
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Your question is an evasion in itself. Really: is someone telling you that
if the notebook serves you as well as the Mac mini would you should still
get the Mac mini? Anyone at all? If not then what is your point? That two
dissimilar machines cost different amounts? Um, OK. Nobody is suggesting
otherwise.
So your contention is that the Mac Mini costs more for half the RAM,
half the HD, and no optical drive, even though more is included in a PC
notebook that's THINNER than a Mac Mini?
Isn't that your contention?

But you are not going to answer any questions. Boring.

Comes down to this:
* You compared two completely different types of machines and noted one is
more expensive. This is not in contention.

* You then pretended this means the more expensive one is over-priced but
offered no comparison with a similar machine. You then ignored actual
non-COLA comparisons which show Macs are about the same price (though,
admittedly, they are outdated). No comparison with the modern Mac mini has
been shown.

* You keep working to change the topic - to what people not even involved in
the conversation you say said (who cares?), to what you like and look for in
a computer (not in contention), etc.

Get on topic and work to make a point or be ignored.
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2014-08-03 18:20:51 UTC
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...
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Your question is an evasion in itself. Really: is someone telling you that
if the notebook serves you as well as the Mac mini would you should still
get the Mac mini? Anyone at all? If not then what is your point? That two
dissimilar machines cost different amounts? Um, OK. Nobody is suggesting
otherwise.
So your contention is that the Mac Mini costs more for half the RAM,
half the HD, and no optical drive, even though more is included in a PC
notebook that's THINNER than a Mac Mini?
Isn't that your contention?
No, it's yours.
Post by Snit
But you are not going to answer any questions. Boring.
You mean I'm not going to repeat my answers.
Post by Snit
* You compared two completely different types of machines and noted one is
more expensive. This is not in contention.
Yes, I noted the Apple computer costs more even though it comes with
half the processor cores, half the RAM, half the HD, no optical drive,
even though it's thicker than the PC notebook I cited. You failed to
give any reason for the Mac's deficiencies in these areas.
Post by Snit
* You then pretended this means the more expensive one is over-priced but
offered no comparison with a similar machine.
The Mac Mini is a small computer full of laptop parts. How is that not
similar to the laptop PC I compared it to?
Post by Snit
You then ignored actual
non-COLA comparisons which show Macs are about the same price (though,
admittedly, they are outdated).
So why did you reference your outdated bullshit? Why do I have to go
outside of COLA to make a comparison.
Post by Snit
No comparison with the modern Mac mini has
been shown.
Yes it has.

[...]
Snit
2014-08-03 19:38:40 UTC
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Post by Snit
...
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Your question is an evasion in itself. Really: is someone telling you that
if the notebook serves you as well as the Mac mini would you should still
get the Mac mini? Anyone at all? If not then what is your point? That two
dissimilar machines cost different amounts? Um, OK. Nobody is suggesting
otherwise.
So your contention is that the Mac Mini costs more for half the RAM,
half the HD, and no optical drive, even though more is included in a PC
notebook that's THINNER than a Mac Mini?
Isn't that your contention?
No, it's yours.
I never said anything about the RAM or HD or double checked your claims in
any way. Stop trying to speak for me.
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
But you are not going to answer any questions. Boring.
You mean I'm not going to repeat my answers.
Stop trying to speak for me.
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
* You compared two completely different types of machines and noted one is
more expensive. This is not in contention.
Yes, I noted the Apple computer costs more even though it comes with
half the processor cores, half the RAM, half the HD, no optical drive,
even though it's thicker than the PC notebook I cited.
Which is your contention. Fine.
Post by Nobody
You failed to give any reason for the Mac's deficiencies in these areas.
I noted the problem with your comparison: you are comparing to dissimilar
devices and deciding that the more expensive one is overpriced without
actually comparing it to a similar machine.
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
* You then pretended this means the more expensive one is over-priced but
offered no comparison with a similar machine.
The Mac Mini is a small computer full of laptop parts. How is that not
similar to the laptop PC I compared it to?
If you truly cannot see why the machines are dissimilar then that is your
issue.
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
You then ignored actual
non-COLA comparisons which show Macs are about the same price (though,
admittedly, they are outdated).
So why did you reference your outdated bullshit? Why do I have to go
outside of COLA to make a comparison.
I referenced it to show Macs historically cost the same. And if you want to
show the Mac mini is overpriced then look for comparisons with similar
machines. Why? To *actually* show what you claim to be showing.
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
No comparison with the modern Mac mini has
been shown.
Yes it has.
No comparison with a similar machine. Hey, a comparison for you:

<http://www.samstores.com/productdetails.php?pid=21403>

SAMSUNG UA85S9 SMART 85-INCH UHD LED MULTISYSTEM TV

No CPU listed
No memory listed
No hard drive listed
No graphic card listed
No webcam
No OS listed

Monitor included

$39,972


For more than $39,000 less you can get a Mac mini with a listings for its
HD, memory, CPU, etc.. but no monitor included.
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Nobody
2014-08-03 19:57:52 UTC
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I see no reason to repeat myself.

Enjoy your circus!

Hey, is that Walmart Jeremy in the Big Top grand stands?
Snit
2014-08-03 20:13:06 UTC
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I see no reason to repeat myself.
LOL! All you have been doing is repeating yourself - going on about a
comparison of two dissimilar machines as if it means something.

And here is your white flag.

...
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2014-08-04 00:38:14 UTC
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Post by Nobody
So your contention is that the Mac Mini costs more for half the RAM,
half the HD, and no optical drive, even though more is included in a PC
notebook that's THINNER than a Mac Mini?
Yeah, but the Mac Mini has the Apple logo on it. Like, duh.
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2014-08-04 00:56:13 UTC
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Post by Nobody
So your contention is that the Mac Mini costs more for half the RAM,
half the HD, and no optical drive, even though more is included in a PC
notebook that's THINNER than a Mac Mini?
Yeah, but the Mac Mini has the Apple logo on it. Like, duh.
Why are you obsessed with logos? I sincerely do not get it.
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2014-08-03 23:33:16 UTC
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Post by Nobody
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Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
Your fellow troll -hh tells us everybody is replacing desktops with
notebooks, especially power users. Didn't you get the memo?
Besides that, the notebook I showed you is 0.3" THINNER than the "small
form factor" Mac Mini. LOL
Post by DFS
What's your problem?
I'm not the one with the problem. When I go shopping for a computer, I
don't constrain my comparison according to "form factor." I compare
what I get for the price.
Then you're an outrageous moron who sits there thinking "hmmm... should
I carry around a separate CPU, monitor, and keyboard, or a laptop with
everything built in?"
Post by Nobody
For $550 you can't even get a Mac Mini.
So? For $10,000,000 you can't even get a good office suite on Linux.
Post by Nobody
Add $50 to what you spend, and you get half of what's in a PC notebook
if you buy a Mac Mini.
What kind of idiot compares a Mac Mini to a laptop?
Snit
2014-08-03 23:34:50 UTC
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Post by Nobody
For $550 you can't even get a Mac Mini.
So? For $10,000,000 you can't even get a good office suite on Linux.
LOL! Excellent!
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* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
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* Win 8 / Word 2013: http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4
* Mavericks / Pages 5.1: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
Silver Slimer
2014-08-03 16:58:35 UTC
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Post by DFS
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
He's from COLA.
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Snit
2014-08-03 18:14:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by DFS
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
He's from COLA.
LOL!
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DFS
2014-08-03 23:15:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by DFS
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
Why do you want to evade the one in this thread?
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
What's your problem?
He's from COLA.
True. "Advocates" are special kinds of dumb.

What "troll" has ever said something so stupid? None.
-hh
2014-08-04 10:48:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by DFS
<http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8992868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo>
$549.99 with free shipping
<http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html>
That's an idiotic comparison. Notebook vs small form factor?
Apparently because he didn't want to do a valid comparison based on an
actual use case which makes sense. Otherwise, its over before it starts,
because he's comparing different tools that are "similar" only because
of broad categories - e.g., comparing a a power drill to a nail gun
because both are often used in stickbuilt construction.
Post by DFS
What's your problem?
Its because he got whooped, so he thinks through this he can "win". Somehow.


-hh
chrisv
2014-08-04 12:05:07 UTC
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*thread plonk*
Silver Slimer
2014-08-03 16:48:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons looking at
Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all the ones shown in
CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a single
dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X (which in
itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you access to the
Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar. Knowing that pretty
much any hardware you use will work out-of-the-box is great. Knowing
that learning the operating system is incredibly easy is as well. As it
comes directly from Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut down
properly, that no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get
things to work correctly and that screen tearing, if it exists, will be
suffered by the millions of people who bought the exact same machine and
fixed quickly (instead of denied as an issue by the only people with
sufficient knowledge to aid you).

GNU/Linux "advocates" are mediocre people with mediocre lives who accept
mediocrity by default. Apple users tend to be professional who can't
accept any compromise. You won't see successful novelists writing on a
GNU/Linux machine the same way that you won't see successful musicians
recording on an open-source platform. There's a reason for that.
--
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia Supporter
www.silverlips.ca
Nobody
2014-08-03 16:55:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons looking at
Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all the ones shown in
CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a single
dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X (which in
itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you access to the
Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar. Knowing that pretty
much any hardware you use will work out-of-the-box is great. Knowing
that learning the operating system is incredibly easy is as well. As it
comes directly from Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut down
properly, that no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get
things to work correctly and that screen tearing, if it exists, will be
suffered by the millions of people who bought the exact same machine and
fixed quickly (instead of denied as an issue by the only people with
sufficient knowledge to aid you).
GNU/Linux "advocates" are mediocre people with mediocre lives who accept
mediocrity by default. Apple users tend to be professional who can't
accept any compromise. You won't see successful novelists writing on a
GNU/Linux machine the same way that you won't see successful musicians
recording on an open-source platform. There's a reason for that.
Yet another advantage of the PC laptop: you're not required to become a
brainwashed iCultist to buy it or use it.

I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
Silver Slimer
2014-08-03 17:05:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons looking at
Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all the ones shown in
CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a single
dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X (which in
itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you access to the
Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar. Knowing that pretty
much any hardware you use will work out-of-the-box is great. Knowing
that learning the operating system is incredibly easy is as well. As it
comes directly from Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut down
properly, that no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get
things to work correctly and that screen tearing, if it exists, will be
suffered by the millions of people who bought the exact same machine and
fixed quickly (instead of denied as an issue by the only people with
sufficient knowledge to aid you).
GNU/Linux "advocates" are mediocre people with mediocre lives who accept
mediocrity by default. Apple users tend to be professional who can't
accept any compromise. You won't see successful novelists writing on a
GNU/Linux machine the same way that you won't see successful musicians
recording on an open-source platform. There's a reason for that.
Yet another advantage of the PC laptop: you're not required to become a
brainwashed iCultist to buy it or use it.
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I honestly have no idea how you managed to misspell a word that even a
two year-old can write properly. Either way, that $549 laptop most
likely comes with Windows 8 and a BIOS which enables UEFI. As far as I
know, even if you wanted to install a GNU/Linux distribution of your
choice on it to replace Windows 8, you might not be able to do it easily
and you especially might not know that you have to disable UEFI in the
BIOS in the first place (try to explain how to do that to one of the
retarded old fossils who hires JEDIDIAH). I think many of you
conveniently disregarded the whole UEFI vs. GNU/Linux controversy of the
past few years.
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www.silverlips.ca
Nobody
2014-08-03 17:15:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Nobody
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
[...]
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Nobody
Yet another advantage of the PC laptop: you're not required to become a
brainwashed iCultist to buy it or use it.
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I honestly have no idea how you managed to misspell a word that even a
two year-old can write properly.
Unlike you I haven't had any since I was a kid.
Post by Silver Slimer
Either way, that $549 laptop most
likely comes with Windows 8
You think that's "likely, do you?" What did you do, read it where the
specs list it and decide it's "likely" they mean it? LOL
Post by Silver Slimer
and a BIOS which enables UEFI. As far as I
know, even if you wanted to install a GNU/Linux distribution of your
choice on it to replace Windows 8, you might not be able to do it easily
and you especially might not know that you have to disable UEFI in the
BIOS in the first place (try to explain how to do that to one of the
retarded old fossils who hires JEDIDIAH). I think many of you
conveniently disregarded the whole UEFI vs. GNU/Linux controversy of the
past few years.
That FUD is the best you've got? Did you forget you're trying to talk
everybody into Windows, Snit Slimer?
Silver Slimer
2014-08-03 23:26:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Nobody
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
[...]
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Nobody
Yet another advantage of the PC laptop: you're not required to become a
brainwashed iCultist to buy it or use it.
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I honestly have no idea how you managed to misspell a word that even a
two year-old can write properly.
Unlike you I haven't had any since I was a kid.
Wow, great comeback. Seriously. I'm not laughing at how pathetic you are
or anything. Truly. You're talking to a vegan who doesn't consume
ANYTHING unnatural.
Post by Nobody
Post by Silver Slimer
Either way, that $549 laptop most
likely comes with Windows 8
You think that's "likely, do you?" What did you do, read it where the
specs list it and decide it's "likely" they mean it? LOL
I didn't find the comparison interesting enough to look into what was
bundled with it. However, any computer with that low of a price
generally comes with Windows and it could be assume that its recent
release bundles 8.
Post by Nobody
Post by Silver Slimer
and a BIOS which enables UEFI. As far as I
know, even if you wanted to install a GNU/Linux distribution of your
choice on it to replace Windows 8, you might not be able to do it easily
and you especially might not know that you have to disable UEFI in the
BIOS in the first place (try to explain how to do that to one of the
retarded old fossils who hires JEDIDIAH). I think many of you
conveniently disregarded the whole UEFI vs. GNU/Linux controversy of the
past few years.
That FUD is the best you've got? Did you forget you're trying to talk
everybody into Windows, Snit Slimer?
Show me a single post where I encourage people to use Windows. I have
only been talking about my own experience and specified what *I* did.
You're lying if you claim that I did anything else.
--
Silver Slimer
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www.silverlips.ca
Snit
2014-08-03 18:01:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a single
dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X (which in
itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you access to the
Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar. Knowing that pretty
much any hardware you use will work out-of-the-box is great. Knowing
that learning the operating system is incredibly easy is as well. As it
comes directly from Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut down
properly, that no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get
things to work correctly and that screen tearing, if it exists, will be
suffered by the millions of people who bought the exact same machine and
fixed quickly (instead of denied as an issue by the only people with
sufficient knowledge to aid you).
GNU/Linux "advocates" are mediocre people with mediocre lives who accept
mediocrity by default. Apple users tend to be professional who can't
accept any compromise. You won't see successful novelists writing on a
GNU/Linux machine the same way that you won't see successful musicians
recording on an open-source platform. There's a reason for that.
Yet another advantage of the PC laptop: you're not required to become a
brainwashed iCultist to buy it or use it.
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
So far this long, meaningless debate has concluded:

* One machine costs more than another dissimilar machine.

So what?
--
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Nobody
2014-08-03 18:30:54 UTC
Permalink
[...]
Post by Snit
* One machine costs more than another dissimilar machine.
Where the more expensive Apple computer is "dissimilar" due to having
half the processor cores, half the RAM, half the HD, no optical drive,
no keyboard, and no display
Post by Snit
So what?
So when are you going to come up with a reason to pay more to Apple for
less than half the hardware, in a machine that's not even portable?
Snit
2014-08-03 19:40:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
[...]
Post by Snit
* One machine costs more than another dissimilar machine.
Where the more expensive Apple computer is "dissimilar" due to having
half the processor cores, half the RAM, half the HD, no optical drive,
no keyboard, and no display
Post by Snit
So what?
So when are you going to come up with a reason to pay more to Apple for
less than half the hardware, in a machine that's not even portable?
Who is telling you what machine to get? Given how you cannot compare similar
machines nor have you stated what you are even planning on using it for who
cares?
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RonB
2014-08-04 00:43:52 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Where the more expensive Apple computer is "dissimilar" due to having
half the processor cores, half the RAM, half the HD, no optical drive,
no keyboard, and no display
Three words ... NO APPLE LOGO. What part of this is going over your
head? :)
--
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
Snit
2014-08-04 00:57:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by RonB
Post by Nobody
Where the more expensive Apple computer is "dissimilar" due to having
half the processor cores, half the RAM, half the HD, no optical drive,
no keyboard, and no display
Three words ... NO APPLE LOGO. What part of this is going over your
head? :)
Back to your obsession over logos. I find that weird.
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* Win 8 / Word 2013: http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4
* Mavericks / Pages 5.1: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
RonB
2014-08-04 00:42:51 UTC
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Post by Nobody
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I haven't heard much from Walmart Jeremy lately. Which is kind of odd
because he was the AUTHORITY on all things tech. Wasn't he?
--
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
Chris Ahlstrom
2014-08-04 00:56:49 UTC
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Post by RonB
Post by Nobody
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I haven't heard much from Walmart Jeremy lately. Which is kind of odd
because he was the AUTHORITY on all things tech. Wasn't he?
"Jeremy" got replaced by "Curtis". Another Walmartian.
--
Time washes clean
Love's wounds unseen.
That's what someone told me;
But I don't know what it means.
-- Linda Ronstadt, "Long Long Time"
RonB
2014-08-04 00:58:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Post by RonB
Post by Nobody
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I haven't heard much from Walmart Jeremy lately. Which is kind of odd
because he was the AUTHORITY on all things tech. Wasn't he?
"Jeremy" got replaced by "Curtis". Another Walmartian.
I see. I guess I missed "Curtis." Can't keep up with Snit's imaginary half-
life.
--
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
Chris Ahlstrom
2014-08-04 09:55:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by RonB
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Post by RonB
Post by Nobody
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I haven't heard much from Walmart Jeremy lately. Which is kind of odd
because he was the AUTHORITY on all things tech. Wasn't he?
"Jeremy" got replaced by "Curtis". Another Walmartian.
I see. I guess I missed "Curtis." Can't keep up with Snit's imaginary half-
life.
Yeah, it was obvious immediately that he wasn't a Linux fan. . It took
"Curtis" only a day to begin his descent, and the next day (yesterday) to
basically out himself as a long-time COLA troll, and not just a "one-hit
wonder". He doesn't sound like Snit, though. Sounds like some other
fscktard.
--
A place for everything and everything in its place.
-- Isabella Mary Beeton, "The Book of Household Management"

[Quoted in "VMS Internals and Data Structures", V4.4, when
referring to memory management system services.]
Jack Ryan
2014-08-04 11:05:31 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
"Curtis" only a day to begin his descent, and the next day (yesterday) to
basically out himself as a long-time COLA troll, and not just a "one-hit
wonder".
great that you woke up at 5am to share this fascinating news with us.


you're a stupid fucktard Chris Ahlstrom.
John Kennerson
2014-08-04 13:41:25 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
"Curtis" only a day to begin his descent, and the next day (yesterday) to
basically out himself as a long-time COLA troll, and not just a "one-hit
wonder".
great that you woke up at 5am to share this fascinating news with us.


you're a stupid fucktard Chris Ahlstrom.
Dave U. Random
2014-08-04 14:54:25 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
"Curtis" only a day to begin his descent, and the next day (yesterday) to
basically out himself as a long-time COLA troll, and not just a "one-hit
wonder".
great that you woke up at 5am to share this fascinating news with us.


you're a stupid fucktard Chris Ahlstrom.
Snit
2014-08-04 00:57:27 UTC
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Post by RonB
Post by Nobody
I hope you saved some of that Kool-Aide for Walmart Jeremy...
I haven't heard much from Walmart Jeremy lately. Which is kind of odd
because he was the AUTHORITY on all things tech. Wasn't he?
You now think Walmart associates are, by default, an "AUTHORITY on all
things tech". This shows how little you know.
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Tattoo Vampire
2014-08-04 12:11:31 UTC
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Post by RonB
I haven't heard much from Walmart Jeremy lately. Which is kind of odd
because he was the AUTHORITY on all things tech. Wasn't he?
I was in Christiansburg VA the weekend before last and visited Best Buy.
They had a good selection of Chromebooks on hand and the guy told me they
were selling well.

Maybe Jeremy is working for Best Buy now.
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flatfish+++
2014-08-04 13:08:28 UTC
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Post by Tattoo Vampire
Post by RonB
I haven't heard much from Walmart Jeremy lately. Which is kind of odd
because he was the AUTHORITY on all things tech. Wasn't he?
I was in Christiansburg VA the weekend before last and visited Best Buy.
They had a good selection of Chromebooks on hand and the guy told me they
were selling well.
Maybe Jeremy is working for Best Buy now.
Interesting. I was in Best Buy over the weekend as well and this
store had an entire kiosk, counter, set up for Google Chrome books.
They were quite busy but I did manage to ask a sales lady what Chrome
Book sales were like and she said very good. Lot's of parents buying
them for their kids.

They had a Samsung and Apple kiosk set up as well. Not as busy as the
Chrome section though.
Snit
2014-08-03 17:00:10 UTC
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Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons looking at
Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all the ones shown in
CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a single
dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X (which in
itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you access to the
Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Well, if I knew someone looking for just a basic web surfing / email machine
and had to pick between those two I might very well go for the PC, esp. if
budget was a big consideration. But for your main point - yes, the value of
OS X is large and not factored into his comparison of very different
machines.
Post by Silver Slimer
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work out-of-the-box is
great. Knowing that learning the operating system is incredibly easy is as
well. As it comes directly from Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut
down properly, that no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get
things to work correctly and that screen tearing, if it exists, will be
suffered by the millions of people who bought the exact same machine and fixed
quickly (instead of denied as an issue by the only people with sufficient
knowledge to aid you).
No argument here.
Post by Silver Slimer
GNU/Linux "advocates" are mediocre people with mediocre lives who accept
mediocrity by default.
For the most part, yup.
Post by Silver Slimer
Apple users tend to be professional who can't accept any compromise. You won't
see successful novelists writing on a GNU/Linux machine the same way that you
won't see successful musicians recording on an open-source platform. There's a
reason for that.
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Melzzzzz
2014-08-03 17:08:50 UTC
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
--
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Snit
2014-08-03 18:00:49 UTC
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Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)

OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of hardware
problems or corrupt OS files.
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Nobody
2014-08-03 18:22:27 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of hardware
problems or corrupt OS files.
Ignore what your iMac did. Only pay attention to what Snit Slimer tells
you it does.
Melzzzzz
2014-08-03 19:13:48 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:22:27 -0500
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track
all the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating
system is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from
Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that
no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get things to
work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
Ignore what your iMac did. Only pay attention to what Snit Slimer
tells you it does.
Heh, oscpd is buggy process, does not have to do anything with
hardware...
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1682640
--
Click OK to continue...
Nobody
2014-08-04 00:14:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:22:27 -0500
Post by Nobody
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track
all the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating
system is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from
Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that
no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get things to
work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
Ignore what your iMac did. Only pay attention to what Snit Slimer
tells you it does.
Heh, oscpd is buggy process, does not have to do anything with
hardware...
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1682640
Haven't you been paying attention to GreyCloud? His infallible
experience says your problem is caused by bad hardware. Disregard
whatever the real cause is and take his word for it. He has
"experience." :-D
Melzzzzz
2014-08-03 19:11:36 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:00:49 -0700
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
--
Click OK to continue...
Lloyd Parsons
2014-08-03 19:14:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:00:49 -0700
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac are just rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these days.


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Snit
2014-08-03 19:26:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac are just
rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these days.
Right. Macs also get hardware problems. Of course. And Apple will provide
great support.
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Melzzzzz
2014-08-03 19:33:59 UTC
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:14:12 -0500
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:00:49 -0700
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price
comparisons looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I
used to track all the ones shown in CSMA... but those are
outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating
system is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from
Apple, you know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that
no ridiculous obscure settings will be required to get things
to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac
are just rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these
days.
I have solved problem, by disabling buggy service...
--
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Snit
2014-08-03 19:42:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac
are just rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these
days.
I have solved problem, by disabling buggy service...
Which one?
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JEDIDIAH
2014-08-04 15:56:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:00:49 -0700
[deletia]
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac are just
rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these days.
"They're rock solid, unless they aren't, then we will make excuses."

[deletia]

The filesharing setup I have for my boxes would not be possible
to implement on a Mac without using the command line. When it comes
to fileshares and the standard GUI tools, MacOS is just too unreliable

...and it's pretty simple stuff really.
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Snit
2014-08-04 16:32:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by JEDIDIAH
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac are just
rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these days.
"They're rock solid, unless they aren't, then we will make excuses."
[deletia]
The filesharing setup I have for my boxes would not be possible
to implement on a Mac without using the command line. When it comes
to fileshares and the standard GUI tools, MacOS is just too unreliable
...and it's pretty simple stuff really.
What is this setup?
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Lloyd E Parsons
2014-08-04 17:29:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by JEDIDIAH
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:00:49 -0700
[deletia]
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac are just
rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these days.
"They're rock solid, unless they aren't, then we will make excuses."
[deletia]
The filesharing setup I have for my boxes would not be possible
to implement on a Mac without using the command line. When it comes
to fileshares and the standard GUI tools, MacOS is just too unreliable
...and it's pretty simple stuff really.
I'll call bullshit until you provide some proof.
--
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Snit
2014-08-04 17:56:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lloyd E Parsons
Post by JEDIDIAH
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:00:49 -0700
[deletia]
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac are just
rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these days.
"They're rock solid, unless they aren't, then we will make excuses."
[deletia]
The filesharing setup I have for my boxes would not be possible
to implement on a Mac without using the command line. When it comes
to fileshares and the standard GUI tools, MacOS is just too unreliable
...and it's pretty simple stuff really.
I'll call bullshit until you provide some proof.
Silver Slimer talked about a common issue - screen tearing - and was called
a liar over it.

JEDIDIA talks about a very rare issue... and the herd is silent.
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Silver Slimer
2014-08-04 18:20:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Lloyd E Parsons
Post by JEDIDIAH
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:00:49 -0700
[deletia]
Post by Lloyd Parsons
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
Same holds true. Absent a hardware or some corrupted OS file iMac are just
rock solid. Same holds true for most major mfg boxes these days.
"They're rock solid, unless they aren't, then we will make excuses."
[deletia]
The filesharing setup I have for my boxes would not be possible
to implement on a Mac without using the command line. When it comes
to fileshares and the standard GUI tools, MacOS is just too unreliable
...and it's pretty simple stuff really.
I'll call bullshit until you provide some proof.
Silver Slimer talked about a common issue - screen tearing - and was called
a liar over it.
JEDIDIA talks about a very rare issue... and the herd is silent.
The herd was afraid of me returning to the Snit camp. By yourself,
you're a logical user of technology who is able to prove whatever
statement he makes whether on technology or on politics with links and
videos. With me, the above is true AND there's suddenly an arrogant,
loud-mouth beast of a man very willing and able to confront them on
their hypocrisy and stupidity. The combination, whether friendly,
convenient or coincidental is extremely dangerous to a fragile
collection of "advocates" whose strategies of defending a pathetic
operating system are futile against the combination of your careful
analysis and my confidence and wit. Bullying me to stay on their side is
the only thing preventing the foundation of their glass house from
collapsing.
--
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia Supporter
www.silverlips.ca
Snit
2014-08-03 19:41:59 UTC
Permalink
On 8/3/14, 12:11 PM, in article lrm1h9$7i9$***@solani.org, "Melzzzzz"
<***@zzzzz.invalid> wrote:

...
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
OK. Are you suggesting that OS X on Apple hardware never has hardware
problems or corrupt OS files.
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Melzzzzz
2014-08-03 19:43:07 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:41:59 -0700
Post by Snit
...
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
OK. Are you suggesting that OS X on Apple hardware never has hardware
problems or corrupt OS files.
Are you suggesting that OS X is bug free?
--
Click OK to continue...
Snit
2014-08-03 19:51:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:41:59 -0700
Post by Snit
...
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence of
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
OK. Are you suggesting that OS X on Apple hardware never has hardware
problems or corrupt OS files.
Are you suggesting that OS X is bug free?
Of course not. Where they heck would you get that idea and why did you not
answer my question?
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* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
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* Win 8 / Word 2013: http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4
* Mavericks / Pages 5.1: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
Melzzzzz
2014-08-03 20:03:40 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:51:09 -0700
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:41:59 -0700
Post by Snit
...
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence
of hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
OK. Are you suggesting that OS X on Apple hardware never has
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
Are you suggesting that OS X is bug free?
Of course not. Where they heck would you get that idea and why did
you not answer my question?
Why are you asking that question, then?
--
Click OK to continue...
Snit
2014-08-03 20:12:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:51:09 -0700
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:41:59 -0700
Post by Snit
...
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Snit
Post by Melzzzzz
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Warm the room. :)
OS X, Windows, and Linux only very rarely freeze in the absence
of hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
This is iMac, Apple hardware...
OK. Are you suggesting that OS X on Apple hardware never has
hardware problems or corrupt OS files.
Are you suggesting that OS X is bug free?
Of course not. Where they heck would you get that idea and why did
you not answer my question?
Why are you asking that question, then?
Good greif you are slow. You noted problems that are almost surely related
to hardware. I noted this. You then said the hardware is Apple... as if that
somehow was in question or made a difference.

Do you get yet that freezes on OS X, Windows, and Linux are *generally* a
sign of hardware problems or corrupt files? Do a hardware test and if that
comes out clean re-install the OS.

Not hard.
--
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* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
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RonB
2014-08-04 00:45:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Melzzzzz
Are you suggesting that OS X is bug free?
He's an iCultist. What do you think?
--
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Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
Snit
2014-08-04 00:58:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by RonB
Post by Melzzzzz
Are you suggesting that OS X is bug free?
He's an iCultist. What do you think?
You now think real people are your imaginary friends? What?
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GreyCloud
2014-08-03 18:25:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-
details.asp?EdpNo=899
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Nobody
2014-08-03 18:32:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-
details.asp?EdpNo=899
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Is that what you heard when you held a seashell to your ear?
GreyCloud
2014-08-03 20:00:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
Post by Nobody
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-
details.asp?EdpNo=899
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Is that what you heard when you held a seashell to your ear?
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.

If you want to smell the seashore, find a hooker and lay your head on her
thigh.
Nobody
2014-08-03 20:12:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Nobody
Post by Nobody
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-
details.asp?EdpNo=899
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Is that what you heard when you held a seashell to your ear?
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
Post by GreyCloud
If you want to smell the seashore, find a hooker and lay your head on her
thigh.
More of your "experience" talking, no doubt.
GreyCloud
2014-08-03 20:52:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Nobody
Post by Nobody
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-
details.asp?EdpNo=899
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Is that what you heard when you held a seashell to your ear?
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
What part of experience do you not understand?

Any UNIX system that has bad ram will give you a kernel panic.
Also, if the ram logic is bad the results will be the same.
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
If you want to smell the seashore, find a hooker and lay your head on her
thigh.
More of your "experience" talking, no doubt.
Heh... you won't believe this, but I heard this one on our local radio
station. The real laugh was when people called in to complain about it.
LOL!!!
Nobody
2014-08-04 00:05:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Nobody
Post by Nobody
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-
details.asp?EdpNo=899
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Is that what you heard when you held a seashell to your ear?
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
What part of experience do you not understand?
The part where you think your experience gives you psychic power to know
a system freeze is due to hardware and not software.
Post by GreyCloud
Any UNIX system that has bad ram will give you a kernel panic.
Also, if the ram logic is bad the results will be the same.
Did he say he had a kernel panic? If you read his other posts, you
ought to know he said he solved it by killing a process.

[...]
Snit
2014-08-04 00:22:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
What part of experience do you not understand?
The part where you think your experience gives you psychic power to know
a system freeze is due to hardware and not software.
This shows your lack of knowledge. It does not take psychic powers to know
that for OS X, Windows, and Linux that common freezes are generally due to
hardware issues... or corrupt system files. There are other possibilities,
of course, but those are the most common things.

...
--
* Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint / LibreOffice: http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto
* Win 8 / Word 2013: http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4
* Mavericks / Pages 5.1: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
GreyCloud
2014-08-04 17:26:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
What part of experience do you not understand?
The part where you think your experience gives you psychic power to know
a system freeze is due to hardware and not software.
This shows your lack of knowledge. It does not take psychic powers to know
that for OS X, Windows, and Linux that common freezes are generally due to
hardware issues... or corrupt system files. There are other possibilities,
of course, but those are the most common things.
...
Even then, one could just fire up a terminal to find out what is going on.
I've yet to see any os that froze up, except dos.
Multitasking oses can have problems, but freezing up isn't one of them.
Chris Ahlstrom
2014-08-04 17:34:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by GreyCloud
Even then, one could just fire up a terminal to find out what is going on.
I've yet to see any os that froze up, except dos.
Multitasking oses can have problems, but freezing up isn't one of them.
Well, if your user interface freezes... I've had X freeze up on me on
occasion (on Debian unstable, with VirtualBox running). So that even the
magic SysReq keys would not work.

Of course, usually you can still SSH in and fix/restart things.
--
BOFH excuse #43:

boss forgot system password
GreyCloud
2014-08-04 18:21:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Post by GreyCloud
Even then, one could just fire up a terminal to find out what is going
on. I've yet to see any os that froze up, except dos.
Multitasking oses can have problems, but freezing up isn't one of them.
Well, if your user interface freezes... I've had X freeze up on me on
occasion (on Debian unstable, with VirtualBox running). So that even the
magic SysReq keys would not work.
I'd use the alt-F4 to see what was going on then.
The display is one area where if it stops responding you can't see what is
really going on. If it happens often enough, I'd be suspecting the graphics
card then. I've never had a bad graphics card tho, so never had that happen
to me.
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Of course, usually you can still SSH in and fix/restart things.
That's true.

Snit
2014-08-04 17:55:07 UTC
Permalink
On 8/4/14, 10:26 AM, in article
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
What part of experience do you not understand?
The part where you think your experience gives you psychic power to know
a system freeze is due to hardware and not software.
This shows your lack of knowledge. It does not take psychic powers to know
that for OS X, Windows, and Linux that common freezes are generally due to
hardware issues... or corrupt system files. There are other possibilities,
of course, but those are the most common things.
...
Even then, one could just fire up a terminal to find out what is going on.
I've yet to see any os that froze up, except dos.
I have - included OS X, Windows (XP and Vista and 7... not 8 so far), and
Linux. But it is very rare.
Post by GreyCloud
Multitasking oses can have problems, but freezing up isn't one of them.
It is a very rare one.
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GreyCloud
2014-08-04 18:19:54 UTC
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On 8/4/14, 10:26 AM, in article
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
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Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
What part of experience do you not understand?
The part where you think your experience gives you psychic power to
know a system freeze is due to hardware and not software.
This shows your lack of knowledge. It does not take psychic powers to
know that for OS X, Windows, and Linux that common freezes are generally
due to hardware issues... or corrupt system files. There are other
possibilities, of course, but those are the most common things.
...
Even then, one could just fire up a terminal to find out what is going
on. I've yet to see any os that froze up, except dos.
I have - included OS X, Windows (XP and Vista and 7... not 8 so far), and
Linux. But it is very rare.
I've never even seen win3.1 or 95 ever freeze up. Of course back then I had
ECC ram on a mobo that supported that.
Post by Snit
Post by GreyCloud
Multitasking oses can have problems, but freezing up isn't one of them.
It is a very rare one.
GreyCloud
2014-08-04 00:31:55 UTC
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Post by Nobody
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-
details.asp?EdpNo=899
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Is that what you heard when you held a seashell to your ear?
No, I know of the problem like that from experience.
You're only guessing his problem has the same cause as yours did.
What part of experience do you not understand?
The part where you think your experience gives you psychic power to know
a system freeze is due to hardware and not software.
Guffaw!!! It isn't pyschic stuff, but a few decades of computer hardware
experience... something that you obviously lack.
Post by Nobody
Post by GreyCloud
Any UNIX system that has bad ram will give you a kernel panic.
Also, if the ram logic is bad the results will be the same.
Did he say he had a kernel panic? If you read his other posts, you
ought to know he said he solved it by killing a process.
Then it isn't a freeze up now is it.

I've had that same kind of problem on OS X by mistakenly setting the vi
history level to unlimited. After a couple of days the file that holds the
history starts to eat up the hard drive space and things start to get
slow... but at least OS X back then let you know that you are running out of
hard drive space.

A real freeze up means that the os couldn't run due to a hardware logic
problem or bad ram... and even then OS X will give some kind of warning.

But the OP said it froze up completely... which is a bogus claim considering
what will take place before that... a lot of messages giving him warnings.
Snit
2014-08-03 19:25:20 UTC
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On 8/3/14, 11:25 AM, in article
Post by GreyCloud
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
Sounds like either bad ram or a motherboard logic problem.
Most likely. If you are getting OS X, Windows, or Linux to freeze a lot it
is almost surely a hardware issue.
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Silver Slimer
2014-08-03 23:21:09 UTC
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:48:14 -0400
Post by Silver Slimer
Post by Snit
Post by Nobody
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899
2868&Sku=LCU-102411216Lenovo
Flex 2 15D AMD Quad
Quad-Core A8 6410 2.0GHz
8GB Memory
1TB HDD
DVDRW
15.6" Full HD Touch 1920 X 1080 Display Notebook
AMD Radeon R4 graphics
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
HDMI
802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth
1 - USB 3.0, 2 - USB 2.0
Integrated Webcam
Supplemental Drive Capacity 2-in-1
Windows 8.1 64-bit
$549.99 with free shipping
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs.html
with half the processor cores
with half the RAM
with half the hard disk space
no keyboard
no monitor
no Webcam
no optical drive
no open drive bay
DVI or VGA output require adapter purchase
not portable
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those
Thunderbolt devices you don't have.
I would love for you to find some non-COLA made price comparisons
looking at Apple products vs. the competition. I used to track all
the ones shown in CSMA... but those are outdated by now.
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
I never said I liked OS X or thought it was perfect. However, I can
guarantee you that whatever caused the freezing was very well identified
by Apple and fixed quickly thereafter if the operating system was to blame.
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Snit
2014-08-03 23:23:25 UTC
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Post by Melzzzzz
Post by Silver Slimer
Dude, it's not even worth it. Even if Apple hardware did cost a
single dollar more, the very fact that it allows you to use OS X
(which in itself isn't such a gigantic privilege) and gives you
access to the Apple ecosystem is worth that additional dollar.
Knowing that pretty much any hardware you use will work
out-of-the-box is great. Knowing that learning the operating system
is incredibly easy is as well. As it comes directly from Apple, you
know that it will sleep and shut down properly, that no ridiculous
obscure settings will be required to get things to work correctly
FUD. I have huge problems on iMac because of bugs in OS....
Computer freezed completely...
I never said I liked OS X or thought it was perfect. However, I can
guarantee you that whatever caused the freezing was very well identified
by Apple and fixed quickly thereafter if the operating system was to blame.
This is almost always the case with Apple. They have excellent support. Does
not mean, of course, that they are perfect (far from it, really).
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* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mint / LibreOffice: http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto
* Win 8 / Word 2013: http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4
* Mavericks / Pages 5.1: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
RonB
2014-08-04 00:37:10 UTC
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Post by Nobody
On the bright side it does have a Thunderbolt port for those Thunderbolt
devices you don't have.
:) Yeah, that would be worth it.
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