Distros Say: "Wayland." Distro Lackeys Say: "Yassah Massah."

Post by Farley Flud
All the fucking distros are adopting Wayland and their stupid-fuck
lackeys will agree without question or dissent.
But Wayland is garbage.
Also, X Window will be around for a long, long, time.
Only a retarded idiot would ever agree to Wayland.
Fuck Wayland!
Fuck WAyland!
I will use X Window now and in the future.

While I wouldn't say Wayland is "garbage", I don't really like how it
would break a lot of my apps. For now, I'll be sticking with Wayland
until X11 backwards compatibility is implemented.

Also I don't think XFCE4 has a Wayland version.

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Farley Flud

2024-11-11 08:28:52 UTC

Post by candycanearter07
While I wouldn't say Wayland is "garbage", I don't really like how it
would break a lot of my apps. For now, I'll be sticking with Wayland
until X11 backwards compatibility is implemented.

Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?

Talk to them about backward compatibility and they'll laugh in
your face and accuse you of being anti-progressive and stuck
in the past.

They will easily toss 50 years of software development onto
the trash heap and their mainstream distro flunkies will
accept it all without protest.

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Joel

2024-11-11 09:46:32 UTC

Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?
Talk to them about backward compatibility and they'll laugh in
your face and accuse you of being anti-progressive and stuck
in the past.
They will easily toss 50 years of software development onto
the trash heap and their mainstream distro flunkies will
accept it all without protest.

You ever think of simply choosing a distro that uses X? Your
arguments are always designed to defend having a joke of a setup, your
system would suck balls with any graphical scheme.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Stéphane CARPENTIER

2024-11-11 10:32:37 UTC

Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?
Talk to them about backward compatibility and they'll laugh in
your face and accuse you of being anti-progressive and stuck
in the past.
They will easily toss 50 years of software development onto
the trash heap and their mainstream distro flunkies will
accept it all without protest.

You ever think

No, he can't. That's obvious in any of his messages.

Post by Joel
of simply choosing a distro that uses X?

You mean installing something not installed by default by his distro?
No, he's a distro lackey.

Post by Joel
Your
arguments are always designed to defend having a joke of a setup, your
system would suck balls with any graphical scheme.

There is nothing wrong with his system. The issue is with his way of
using it. He claims he's the best user when he's so slow that he
shouldn't brag about it. And the fact that he's relying heavily on a GUI
when he says that GUI are stupid is an issue too.

But its look is only a matter of taste. If it looks ugly to you, he is
the one to use it, so he has no reason to adapt it to your tastes. To
speak about something you'll understand, his way of choosing a theme for
his GUI is as valid as your way of choosing a partner with a dick. If
you claim about your right to have different tastes, you can't criticise
his tastes.

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Joel

2024-11-11 10:42:47 UTC

Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?
Talk to them about backward compatibility and they'll laugh in
your face and accuse you of being anti-progressive and stuck
in the past.
They will easily toss 50 years of software development onto
the trash heap and their mainstream distro flunkies will
accept it all without protest.

You ever think

No, he can't. That's obvious in any of his messages.

Post by Joel
of simply choosing a distro that uses X?

You mean installing something not installed by default by his distro?
No, he's a distro lackey.

AFAICT, my Debian uses X by default. I see nothing about Wayland.
Larry apparently thinks all distros are alike, which he's partially
right about, they're all superior to his ridiculous, lacking a modern
browser, no DE, retardo setup.

Post by Joel
Your
arguments are always designed to defend having a joke of a setup, your
system would suck balls with any graphical scheme.

There is nothing wrong with his system. The issue is with his way of
using it. He claims he's the best user when he's so slow that he
shouldn't brag about it. And the fact that he's relying heavily on a GUI
when he says that GUI are stupid is an issue too.
But its look is only a matter of taste. If it looks ugly to you, he is
the one to use it, so he has no reason to adapt it to your tastes. To
speak about something you'll understand, his way of choosing a theme for
his GUI is as valid as your way of choosing a partner with a dick. If
you claim about your right to have different tastes, you can't criticise
his tastes.

I am not sure I'd compare his silly computer to sexual preferences ...
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

candycanearter07

2024-11-11 14:40:04 UTC

Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?
Talk to them about backward compatibility and they'll laugh in
your face and accuse you of being anti-progressive and stuck
in the past.
They will easily toss 50 years of software development onto
the trash heap and their mainstream distro flunkies will
accept it all without protest.

You ever think

No, he can't. That's obvious in any of his messages.

Post by Joel
of simply choosing a distro that uses X?

You mean installing something not installed by default by his distro?
No, he's a distro lackey.

Post by Joel
Your
arguments are always designed to defend having a joke of a setup, your
system would suck balls with any graphical scheme.

There is nothing wrong with his system. The issue is with his way of
using it. He claims he's the best user when he's so slow that he
shouldn't brag about it. And the fact that he's relying heavily on a GUI
when he says that GUI are stupid is an issue too.
But its look is only a matter of taste. If it looks ugly to you, he is
the one to use it, so he has no reason to adapt it to your tastes. To
speak about something you'll understand, his way of choosing a theme for
his GUI is as valid as your way of choosing a partner with a dick. If
you claim about your right to have different tastes, you can't criticise
his tastes.

I am not sure I'd compare his silly computer to sexual preferences ...

My debian install is running X11, too.

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Joel

2024-11-11 14:56:17 UTC

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Joel
AFAICT, my Debian uses X by default. I see nothing about Wayland.
Larry apparently thinks all distros are alike, which he's partially
right about, they're all superior to his ridiculous, lacking a modern
browser, no DE, retardo setup.

My debian install is running X11, too.

I was pretty sure, yeah, I looked as carefully as possible, although
it wasn't entirely clear at first.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro

2024-11-11 22:45:13 UTC

Post by Joel
AFAICT, my Debian uses X by default.

I choose what GUI to run at login time. Linux gives you a choice that way.

Chris Ahlstrom

2024-11-11 11:49:21 UTC

Weren't you the one who cautioned us about responding to trolls?

Anyway, my setups (Debian, Ubuntu, and Arch) all run Xorg at the moment.

I'm a proud distro lackey :-D

Ha ha ha, good old "Bitter Bierce". How we ended up with Trump, again:

--
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is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of office.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

Stéphane CARPENTIER

2024-11-11 10:11:08 UTC

Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?

Yes. It's called xwayland.

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Chris Ahlstrom

2024-11-11 11:50:58 UTC

Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?

Yes. It's called xwayland.

% apropos xwayland
Xwayland (1) - an X server for running X clients under Wayland.

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Farley Flud

2024-11-11 21:11:35 UTC

Post by Farley Flud
Do you believe that those clowns at freedesktop.org give a damn
about backward compatibility?

Yes. It's called xwayland.

You are a dunce.

Xwayland is NOT a complete backward compatibility library. It only
allows certain X applications to run.

For one thing, the ffmpeg "x11grab" does not work with xwayland.

Also, all X compositing window managers will not function with xwayland
as they violate a key concept of Wayland. Thus, 50 years of venerable
X window managers which many people use will be tossed on the scrap
heap.

YOU, like Wayland, are full of fucking shit,

bad sector

2024-11-11 22:31:30 UTC