(OT) Oracle, as bad as Microsoft

[RonB]

Ellison and Gates are cut from the same cloth — I'm posting due to the
Oracle might be a "good" corporation to take over Microsoft post...

What Ellison wants...

Oracle CEO Larry Ellison envisions a future where AI revolutionizes
healthcare by detecting early-stage cancer and creating personalized mRNA
vaccine therapies tailored to individual needs.

Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, has ties to the CIA through the
company’s origins.

Oracle’s journey began with a project known as "Project Oracle,"
partially funded to develop a database for the CIA.

The company’s name was inspired by this very contract, with "Oracle"
serving as the codename for the CIA's groundbreaking database initiative.

And NSA was involved in getting Google off the ground. Gates' father (I
believe) was a CIA connected lawyer. So there really aren't any "good guys"
here.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by RonB
Ellison and Gates are cut from the same cloth — I'm posting due to the
Oracle might be a "good" corporation to take over Microsoft post...
What Ellison wants...
Oracle CEO Larry Ellison envisions a future where AI revolutionizes
healthcare by detecting early-stage cancer and creating personalized mRNA
vaccine therapies tailored to individual needs.
Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, has ties to the CIA through the
company’s origins.
Oracle’s journey began with a project known as "Project Oracle,"
partially funded to develop a database for the CIA.
The company’s name was inspired by this very contract, with "Oracle"
serving as the codename for the CIA's groundbreaking database initiative.
And NSA was involved in getting Google off the ground. Gates' father (I
believe) was a CIA connected lawyer. So there really aren't any "good guys"
here.

I saw that a few days ago, but I didn't bother to post it. I'm at a
point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do the
right thing.

[Tyrone]

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by RonB
Ellison and Gates are cut from the same cloth — I'm posting due to the
Oracle might be a "good" corporation to take over Microsoft post...
What Ellison wants...
Oracle CEO Larry Ellison envisions a future where AI revolutionizes
healthcare by detecting early-stage cancer and creating personalized mRNA
vaccine therapies tailored to individual needs.
Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, has ties to the CIA through the
company’s origins.
Oracle’s journey began with a project known as "Project Oracle,"
partially funded to develop a database for the CIA.
The company’s name was inspired by this very contract, with "Oracle"
serving as the codename for the CIA's groundbreaking database initiative.
And NSA was involved in getting Google off the ground. Gates' father (I
believe) was a CIA connected lawyer. So there really aren't any "good guys"
here.

I saw that a few days ago, but I didn't bother to post it. I'm at a
point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do the
right thing.

Corporations "do the right thing" every day. But it generally will be The
Right Thing for the corporation. What you or I think is generally irrelevant.


Unless - of course - if what the corporation wants to do is so
absurd/wrong/immoral/whatever that it generates massive protests/bad
press/declining stock prices/etc. Only then will a corporation change a
decision.

Remember when Apple wanted to scan everyone's photos for child porn?
Certainly a noble idea on paper, but in reality was a huge privacy intrusion.
After LOADS of bad press, Apple wisely backed down.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Tyrone

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by RonB
Ellison and Gates are cut from the same cloth — I'm posting due to the
Oracle might be a "good" corporation to take over Microsoft post...
What Ellison wants...
Oracle CEO Larry Ellison envisions a future where AI revolutionizes
healthcare by detecting early-stage cancer and creating personalized mRNA
vaccine therapies tailored to individual needs.
Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, has ties to the CIA through the
company’s origins.
Oracle’s journey began with a project known as "Project Oracle,"
partially funded to develop a database for the CIA.
The company’s name was inspired by this very contract, with "Oracle"
serving as the codename for the CIA's groundbreaking database initiative.
And NSA was involved in getting Google off the ground. Gates' father (I
believe) was a CIA connected lawyer. So there really aren't any "good guys"
here.

I saw that a few days ago, but I didn't bother to post it. I'm at a
point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do the
right thing.

Corporations "do the right thing" every day. But it generally will be The
Right Thing for the corporation. What you or I think is generally irrelevant.
Unless - of course - if what the corporation wants to do is so
absurd/wrong/immoral/whatever that it generates massive protests/bad
press/declining stock prices/etc. Only then will a corporation change a
decision.
Remember when Apple wanted to scan everyone's photos for child porn?
Certainly a noble idea on paper, but in reality was a huge privacy intrusion.
After LOADS of bad press, Apple wisely backed down.

I know exactly what you're referring to, but Apple benefits from the
short-term memory of most people and people aren't mad at the company
the way that they should be. I have to admit that I'm at a point where I
don't want any data whatsoever on the cloud unless it's encrypted.

On the topic of corporations though, you're right. You can't expect them
to do anything except what is best for them. That's why limiting our
reliance on them makes sense going forward.

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do
the right thing.

Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle seems
to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP, anyway
(e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro

I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do
the right thing.

Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle seems
to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP, anyway
(e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

The best case scenario would be for the code to be open-sourced,
allowing people to improve it the way they did the AMD drivers that were
open-sourced years ago. I know it will never happen though, with OS/2
being a perfect example of what's most likely. If anything were to
happen, I would only hope that the open-source world would react in the
smartest way possible and get as many parties on board as possible as
either users or developers.

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro

I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to
do the right thing.

Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle
seems to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP,
anyway (e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

The best case scenario would be for the code to be open-sourced ...

Oracle is one of the most open-source-hostile companies around. Look at
what happened to all the open-source projects they inherited from Sun.

That’s another reason why I think it would be a good fit.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro

Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro

I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to
do the right thing.

Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle
seems to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP,
anyway (e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

The best case scenario would be for the code to be open-sourced ...

Oracle is one of the most open-source-hostile companies around. Look at
what happened to all the open-source projects they inherited from Sun.
That’s another reason why I think it would be a good fit.

I'll admit that I'm not too familiar with Oracle's work, but I also
don't work in networking where I believe they make most of their money.
I am aware that they are producing their own, Fedora-based distribution
though.

[rbowman]

Post by CrudeSausage
I'll admit that I'm not too familiar with Oracle's work, but I also
don't work in networking where I believe they make most of their money.
I am aware that they are producing their own, Fedora-based distribution
though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.

[rbowman]

Post by CrudeSausage
I'll admit that I'm not too familiar with Oracle's work, but I also
don't work in networking where I believe they make most of their money.
I am aware that they are producing their own, Fedora-based distribution
though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.

[chrisv]

Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle seems
to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP, anyway
(e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

You mean the lawsuit over Java API's that Oracle lost?