Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall

[Joel]

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall


You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[Joel]

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing

No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[me]

Post by Joel

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing

No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to
denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was
childish and conceited.

[Joel]

Post by me

Post by Joel

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing

No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to
denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was
childish and conceited.

Not really, no. Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Joel

Post by me

Post by Joel

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing

No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to
denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was
childish and conceited.

Not really, no. Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.

Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

[Joel]

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by Joel
Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.

Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Joel

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by Joel
Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.

Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.

It sounds to me like you're faced some of the garbage yourself.

[Joel]

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by Joel

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by Joel
Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.

Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.

It sounds to me like you're faced some of the garbage yourself.

Well, when it comes to suspending/hibernating the system, Linux
doesn't have the magic of Windows, admittedly, but I don't really need
it, I can just lock the screen and let the computer run idly, or turn
it all the way off.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Joel

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by Joel

Post by CrudeSausage

Post by Joel
Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.

Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.

It sounds to me like you're faced some of the garbage yourself.

Well, when it comes to suspending/hibernating the system, Linux
doesn't have the magic of Windows, admittedly, but I don't really need
it, I can just lock the screen and let the computer run idly, or turn
it all the way off.

Admittedly, I don't need it either if I use the laptop at home. I also
don't need it if I have my own classroom and don't need to share it with
others, something that is the case this year (and going forward). Still,
it's always bothersome when something which works _perfectly_ in one
operating system is so stubbornly defective in another. It works quite
well in Fedora though, but Fedora tends to break the NVIDIA drivers
repeatedly, requiring a reinstall all the time.

[rbowman]

Post by CrudeSausage
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

Meanwhile you whine about Windows corrupting your system.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by rbowman

Post by CrudeSausage
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

Meanwhile you whine about Windows corrupting your system.

At the moment, I'd rather whine that it is corrupting itself yet
properly shutting down, waking from sleep and playing all my games and
movies instead than be annoyed that closing the lid will lead the
machine into oblivion.

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...

I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64-
bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by me

Post by Joel

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-
this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
  ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing

No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to
denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was
childish and conceited.

Can't we al just get along?!

[s|b]

Post by me
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Turn this off please.

[%]

Post by Joel

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing

No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

are you going to jail ass whip him

[Paul]

Post by Joel
No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

There's no particular advocacy in this group.

Neither do we come over and sell copies of Windows in COLA.

The feature in question is opt-in. You have to click something
to trigger it.

And if you really really really are such a dumb fuck as to
need this feature... it's available for FREE in the regular
CoPilot.

*******

<Copilot session>

Can you rewrite the following text for me ?

Writing is often the most dreaded task when tackling a big project in Excel.
Whether summarizing data or presenting findings, it's hard to know where to
start or how to make your writing sound good. Luckily, if you use AI to
rewrite text, you can eliminate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll
go over the rewriting capabilities of AI and show you how it can help you
write better and faster when working with Excel. You’ll also see how you
can start with a pencil to rewrite text immediately with numerous prompts
and examples.

Certainly! Here's a revised version of the text:

Tackling a large project in Excel often makes writing feel like a daunting task.
Whether it's summarizing data or presenting findings, it's tough to know where
to begin or how to make your writing shine. Thankfully, using AI to rewrite text
can alleviate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll explore the rewriting
capabilities of AI and demonstrate how it can help you write more effectively
and efficiently when working with Excel. You’ll also discover how to quickly
rewrite text with a pencil using numerous prompts and examples.

<CoPilot> What do you think of this version? (Thumbs up)

It can take advertising mush and make advertising mush from it. Amazing!
It even comes with a Ginsu knife.

What a time to be alive.

Paul

[Joel]

Post by Paul

Post by Joel
No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

There's no particular advocacy in this group.
Neither do we come over and sell copies of Windows in COLA.
The feature in question is opt-in. You have to click something
to trigger it.
And if you really really really are such a dumb fuck as to
need this feature... it's available for FREE in the regular
CoPilot.
*******
<Copilot session>
Can you rewrite the following text for me ?
Writing is often the most dreaded task when tackling a big project in Excel.
Whether summarizing data or presenting findings, it's hard to know where to
start or how to make your writing sound good. Luckily, if you use AI to
rewrite text, you can eliminate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll
go over the rewriting capabilities of AI and show you how it can help you
write better and faster when working with Excel. You’ll also see how you
can start with a pencil to rewrite text immediately with numerous prompts
and examples.
Tackling a large project in Excel often makes writing feel like a daunting task.
Whether it's summarizing data or presenting findings, it's tough to know where
to begin or how to make your writing shine. Thankfully, using AI to rewrite text
can alleviate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll explore the rewriting
capabilities of AI and demonstrate how it can help you write more effectively
and efficiently when working with Excel. You’ll also discover how to quickly
rewrite text with a pencil using numerous prompts and examples.
<CoPilot> What do you think of this version? (Thumbs up)
It can take advertising mush and make advertising mush from it. Amazing!
It even comes with a Ginsu knife.
What a time to be alive.

I have Copilot as a Web app, under Linux, I like M$'s spin on AI chat,
but the way Win11 integrates it is abominable.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[Andy Burns]

Post by Joel
I have Copilot as a Web app, under Linux, I like M$'s spin on AI chat,
but the way Win11 integrates it is abominable.

For the small amount I've used Copilot, just the sidebar in Edge browser
was easy enough, rather than an app.

[Joel]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Joel
I have Copilot as a Web app, under Linux, I like M$'s spin on AI chat,
but the way Win11 integrates it is abominable.

For the small amount I've used Copilot, just the sidebar in Edge browser
was easy enough, rather than an app.

Right, it's equivalent to that, I have a subscription to WebCatalog
which turns it into an app, but it's really just a custom browser
window.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[Andy Burns]

Post by Andy Burns
For the small amount I've used Copilot, just the sidebar in Edge browser
was easy enough, rather than an app.

Oh, just looking at it again, it seems to have changed, where it
previously started as an empty chat session with an input field at the
bottom, it now seems to be stuffed full of suggested topics and
recommended stories ...

[Paul]

For the small amount I've used Copilot, just the sidebar in Edge browser was easy enough, rather than an app.

Oh, just looking at it again, it seems to have changed, where it previously started as an empty chat session
with an input field at the bottom, it now seems to be stuffed full of suggested topics and recommended stories ...

The difference between the two, is the icon in the upper right of
the MSEdge window, seems to be "anchored" to your ID better than
the separate CoPilot icon in the taskbar. It uses your ID, so as you
switch from device to device, your CoPilot "session" could follow you.

The interface alternates between the msn.com quality "fill" and
the option of just asking you to input your query. The graphics
at startup are not a constant. The fill may be local time of day
sensitive (like having an article about the best way to fry
a sausage, at breakfast time).

Paul

[Tyrone]

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

Lighten up, Francis.

Did you even read the article? Notepad is still free. If you want to use the
alleged "AI" features, then you need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription.

I don't have one and never will. I paid $18 of "good money" for Windows 11
Arm Pro. I run it (on the rare occasions I want to run Windows 11) in a VMWare
Fusion VM on this Mac. VMWare is also free.

Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.

[Joel]

Post by Tyrone

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

Lighten up, Francis.
Did you even read the article? Notepad is still free. If you want to use the
alleged "AI" features, then you need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription.
I don't have one and never will. I paid $18 of "good money" for Windows 11
Arm Pro. I run it (on the rare occasions I want to run Windows 11) in a VMWare
Fusion VM on this Mac. VMWare is also free.
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.

Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type this to
run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, but putting
Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you have very recent
hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, even Win10
realistically requires a certain threshold to perform well, and 11 is
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[Tyrone]

Post by Joel

Post by Tyrone

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

Lighten up, Francis.
Did you even read the article? Notepad is still free. If you want to use the
alleged "AI" features, then you need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription.
I don't have one and never will. I paid $18 of "good money" for Windows 11
Arm Pro. I run it (on the rare occasions I want to run Windows 11) in a VMWare
Fusion VM on this Mac. VMWare is also free.
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.

Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type this to
run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, but putting
Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you have very recent
hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, even Win10
realistically requires a certain threshold to perform well, and 11 is
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.

Apple only seems like a "money pit" when you are young and broke. When you
grow up and start making real money, Apple is just fine.

I know because I once was young and broke. Now I am older, wiser and have
money.

[Joel]

Post by Tyrone

Post by Joel

Post by Tyrone

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

Lighten up, Francis.
Did you even read the article? Notepad is still free. If you want to use the
alleged "AI" features, then you need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription.
I don't have one and never will. I paid $18 of "good money" for Windows 11
Arm Pro. I run it (on the rare occasions I want to run Windows 11) in a VMWare
Fusion VM on this Mac. VMWare is also free.
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.

Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type this to
run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, but putting
Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you have very recent
hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, even Win10
realistically requires a certain threshold to perform well, and 11 is
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
Apple only seems like a "money pit" when you are young and broke. When you
grow up and start making real money, Apple is just fine.
I know because I once was young and broke. Now I am older, wiser and have
money.

Even if I were rich, I'd be using the same thing I am right now,
because I don't overbuy, that's what commercial software coerces one
to do, Linux gives one an option that isn't overbearing.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Tyrone

Post by Joel

Post by Tyrone

Post by Joel
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

Lighten up, Francis.
Did you even read the article? Notepad is still free. If you want to use the
alleged "AI" features, then you need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription.
I don't have one and never will. I paid $18 of "good money" for Windows 11
Arm Pro. I run it (on the rare occasions I want to run Windows 11) in a VMWare
Fusion VM on this Mac. VMWare is also free.
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.

Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type this to
run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, but putting
Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you have very recent
hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, even Win10
realistically requires a certain threshold to perform well, and 11 is
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
Apple only seems like a "money pit" when you are young and broke. When you
grow up and start making real money, Apple is just fine.
I know because I once was young and broke. Now I am older, wiser and have
money.

The mere fact that changing the battery, RAM or the storage in Macs is
impossible now makes it a terrible choice for people who like to hold
onto their hardware for a while. If none of the above is important to
you though, it's a nice little system.

[Tyrone]

Post by CrudeSausage
The mere fact that changing the battery, RAM or the storage in Macs is
impossible now makes it a terrible choice for people who like to hold
onto their hardware for a while. If none of the above is important to
you though, it's a nice little system.

Actually, its a nice big system. 12 Arm CPUs (M2), 48GB RAM, 1 TB storage and
16" screen. Runs MacOS (Unix) and Windows 11 at the same time without even
getting warm.

I have a second screen (18") that plugs into a USB-C port. More storage is
also easy via USB-C ports. I have plenty of RAM.

Batteries rarely go bad when you know how to treat them. I have a 10 year old
iPad Air 2 that still works fine. I have an 8 year old iPhone 8 plus that
still has 99% battery health.

The fact is, only real hardware geeks care about "upgrading". Most people are
not computer hobbyists and/or hardware geeks. I used to be (many years ago)
but I am no longer interested in that. I have a real life now.

A "computer" for most people today is just an appliance. And you can't
"upgrade" any other common appliances. TVs, microwave ovens, radios,
dishwashers, refrigerators, phones/tablets/etc. You use it until you outgrow
it. You then sell it and get a new one. Just like any other appliance.

And Apple stuff has high resale value. Win/Win.

[Joel]

Post by Tyrone

Post by CrudeSausage
The mere fact that changing the battery, RAM or the storage in Macs is
impossible now makes it a terrible choice for people who like to hold
onto their hardware for a while. If none of the above is important to
you though, it's a nice little system.

Actually, its a nice big system. 12 Arm CPUs (M2), 48GB RAM, 1 TB storage and
16" screen. Runs MacOS (Unix) and Windows 11 at the same time without even
getting warm.
I have a second screen (18") that plugs into a USB-C port. More storage is
also easy via USB-C ports. I have plenty of RAM.
Batteries rarely go bad when you know how to treat them. I have a 10 year old
iPad Air 2 that still works fine. I have an 8 year old iPhone 8 plus that
still has 99% battery health.
The fact is, only real hardware geeks care about "upgrading". Most people are
not computer hobbyists and/or hardware geeks. I used to be (many years ago)
but I am no longer interested in that. I have a real life now.
A "computer" for most people today is just an appliance. And you can't
"upgrade" any other common appliances. TVs, microwave ovens, radios,
dishwashers, refrigerators, phones/tablets/etc. You use it until you outgrow
it. You then sell it and get a new one. Just like any other appliance.
And Apple stuff has high resale value. Win/Win.

This gets into my reasoning on using Linux, though, my computer
started life with Windows 10 20H2, shortly thereafter upgraded to 11,
on the bleeding edge, and it was very nice, but it's insane how
quickly that began to change with Copilot and 23H2. Linux gives me
something to keep the machine going for years and years, not needing
costly upgrades all the time, I did order a new WiFi adapter, to
replace the motherboard's integrated WiFi6, seems the chips are worn
out, but that's a small upgrade, $30 or so, not like remaking the
whole device.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[CrudeSausage]

Post by Tyrone

Post by CrudeSausage
The mere fact that changing the battery, RAM or the storage in Macs is
impossible now makes it a terrible choice for people who like to hold
onto their hardware for a while. If none of the above is important to
you though, it's a nice little system.

Actually, its a nice big system. 12 Arm CPUs (M2), 48GB RAM, 1 TB storage and
16" screen. Runs MacOS (Unix) and Windows 11 at the same time without even
getting warm.
I have a second screen (18") that plugs into a USB-C port. More storage is
also easy via USB-C ports. I have plenty of RAM.
Batteries rarely go bad when you know how to treat them. I have a 10 year old
iPad Air 2 that still works fine. I have an 8 year old iPhone 8 plus that
still has 99% battery health.
The fact is, only real hardware geeks care about "upgrading". Most people are
not computer hobbyists and/or hardware geeks. I used to be (many years ago)
but I am no longer interested in that. I have a real life now.
A "computer" for most people today is just an appliance. And you can't
"upgrade" any other common appliances. TVs, microwave ovens, radios,
dishwashers, refrigerators, phones/tablets/etc. You use it until you outgrow
it. You then sell it and get a new one. Just like any other appliance.
And Apple stuff has high resale value. Win/Win.

I'll concede on the last part, at the very least. I'm curious how you
managed to get an eight-year-old battery to maintain 99% health after so
long though.

[rbowman]

Post by Tyrone
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
Apple only seems like a "money pit" when you are young and broke. When
you grow up and start making real money, Apple is just fine.
I know because I once was young and broke. Now I am older, wiser and
have money.

I was younger but not broke in the Apple II era. I wasn't impressed and
nobody wanted to pay me to develop Apple software. I'm sure they're fine
products but the only Apple device I've owned is a shuffle I was gifted.
Cute, but iTunes on Windows sucks.

[Daniel70]

<Snip>

Post by Tyrone

Post by Joel
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type
this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux,
but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you
have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long,
even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform
well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is
the only option.

Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.

"Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows
and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary
School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life
.... unless they get adventurous and try something else!!

[Juancho]

Post by Joel
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.

/Gnome, I'm looking at you.

[Joel]

Post by Juancho

Post by Joel
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.

I have Cinnamon under Debian. :)
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Juancho

Post by Joel
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.

I'm using XFCE.

[Joel]

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Juancho

Post by Joel
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.

I'm using XFCE.

That's my second choice, after Cinnamon.
--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Joel

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Juancho

Post by Joel
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.

I'm using XFCE.

That's my second choice, after Cinnamon.

Cheers, it works well for me.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Post by Juancho

Post by Joel
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.

Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.

I prefer a simpler window manager, not a desktop manager. My goto for years has
been Fluxbox, with an occasional excursion into Xfce4.

When I do boot to Windows (mainly to build a Windows version of my code), I
find it kind of like running and suddenly hitting beach sand.

I beef up that environment with MSYS2, Git Bash, VLC, vim/gvim,
and MingW dev tools. Oh, and Qt Creator.

When I had to use Windows at work, I'd add Libreoffice, at least for small
unofficial documents.

[Java Jive]

Post by Tyrone
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.

Not used that, and each to his own, but my favourite is TextPad, which
is trial ware, and doesn't cost much if you decide to opt in*. IMO,
it's about the best text or programming editor out there:

https://www.textpad.com/home

* For example, £10 = $11.20 to upgrade from v4 originally bought around
the turn of the millennium for a similar sum - AFAICR, v4 was still
actually working fine, I just wanted the latest version - to v8 in
2017. I'm still on v8 and have not felt the need to upgrade since.